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 Database vs advertising
Author:Steve
Date:Thursday, 30th Nov 2006 16:41
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Category:Job Boards
URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=5624

I'm reviewing the resources I subcribe to and having checked my records was slightly suprised to find:

My core sectors are sales and IT, and of my last 10 placements 6 came from advert responses from one of the well known generalist job boards; 2 came from advert responses on a well known 'free' job board, only 1 came from actually searching the database of said well known job board, and 1 came from 'networking'.

This was a suprise to me as I spend a great deal of time searching the database. Based on this I'm seriously considering not re-newing my database subscription!

I suspect its just an anomaly, but has anyone else had similar experiences?

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 Re: Database vs advertising
Author:Ethan
Date:Friday, 1st Dec 2006 10:19
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Category:Job Boards
URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=5624

Steve,

We have had similar experiences even with very specialist jobboards and databases - the problem is that all your competition have access to exactly the same candidates and therefore your exclusivity is totally diluted.

Also many candidates these days are now not happy to put their details on the database as they:
1. Realise that their current employer may have access (more and more are signing up)
2. Experience 100's of recruitment agencies contacting them and are overwhelmed by over promising, pushy consultants. (One candidate I spoke to had 28 agencies contact him in the same day after putting his CV online, all contacting him during working hours)

We have not renewed several subscriptions and I dont feel as though we have had any less placements as a result. In fact it has released time to do traditional recruitment of referrals, searching and gaining candidates from referencing.

The cost of these suppliers is rising out of all proportion as well , They know candidates are in short supply and squeeze us as a result.

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 Re: Database vs advertising
Author:Steve
Date:Friday, 1st Dec 2006 12:44
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Category:Job Boards
URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=5624

Thanks Ethan, I totally agree that candidates are increasingly hesitant to put their details on a database.

I think it adds weight to the argument that recruiters really have to specialise to gain an edge. And preferably work for clients on an exclusive basis.

It seems a little scary breaking from a database, but by relying on advertising and networking, the reduction in costs must outweigh the benefit of having that safety net.

Plus you'd be delivering real value to your clients by consistently offering candidates that the masses don't.

Hold on, I sound like one of my mailshots with that last bit!


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 Re: Database vs advertising
Author:VoiceOfReason
Date:Friday, 1st Dec 2006 14:09
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Hi,

The better quality candidate (in the majority of cases) will not wish to make their CV searchable – Don’t let anyone convince you otherwise!

You will find that many top end candidates will either build a CV on a job board or upload a CV to the board but will not elect to make it searchable. As soon as they see a job posted they like the look of they will then apply for it.

Don’t get me wrong, recruiters do find candidates via CV search but as a percentage of all candidates placed it is going to be small.

I would go as far as to question the viability of some of the market leading CV search facilities around like Monster etc, etc. Even with significant marketing budget to increase the number of Cvs that are elected to be viewable on the site I doubt that the solution is truly that effective.

The primary reason why candidates don’t always want to make themselves searchable on a Job board is primarily because:-

a) As Ethan Stated above, the Candidates worry about Pushy consultants and the risk of own employers finding out nor do they want the hassle of possibly being inundated at work or outside of work by recruiters they don’t want to talk to or trust.

And

b) Unfortunately far too many unscrupulous recruiters raid CV banks and post Cvs onto all and sundry and candidates fear this risk. Candidates also don’t rate a percentage of recruitment agencies and can’t stop those recruiters seeing their details if they make their CV searchable.

At the low end or inexperienced end of the market more candidates will register CVs viewable, but fellow recruiters ask yourselves this question:-

“If you were looking for another Job, would you make your own CV searchable on a Job Board?”

The answer is probably that you wouldn’t.

In conclusion, if you are using a Job board you should be posting jobs on it and using search as a secondary facility if it’s included. If you rely on search only to headhunt, you will have your work cut out for you and probably visiting trade forums, groups or in general being more pro-active in your sector may prove to be just as effective

Good Luck

VoR

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