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 Bond 11?
Author:Marcus Nanson
Date:Tuesday, 27th Jul 2010 13:53
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Category:Recruitment Software
URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=210022

I am close to signing up with Bond Adapt for the web based CRM system. Before doing so I am wondering if there are others who are using the system and whether they would recommend it?
Marcus, Kingston-Knight Consultancy

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 Re: Bond 11?
Author:Dan Hunter
Date:Wednesday, 28th Jul 2010 11:35
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Category:Recruitment Software
URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=210022

Ive heard bad things about them, poor support, very expensive and the functionality is no better than alot of others. Im sure Bond would take issue with me about that but i'd certainly encourage you to shop around a bit more!

Dan

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 Re: Bond 11?
Author:Chris Walton
Date:Thursday, 29th Jul 2010 14:45
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Category:Recruitment Software
URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=210022

Definitely have a hunt around for other products.

WIth Bond's ASP (and I am using them right now!!) , problems include:

You cannot automatically update the details of someone where there are more than one person on the system with the same name and have to do it all manually - painful

Search strings are long and laborious with no way of having "Parent" skills (i.e. just searching "Java Developer" and hetting results for "J2EE Developer" or "JEE Developer" or "Java Consultant", etc...) - you have to put these in manually each time.

Same for searching skills - e.g. AS400, AS/400, AS 400....

You cannot save the search criteria, only the results of the search, so if you want to change things slightly on a long search you have to input EVERYTHING again.....

On the "data search" function, for some reason you can only search 3 skill categories at any one time - again, WTF?!

The list goes on. Fundamentally, the COTS product for Bond is superb as you can set it up as you want, but the hosted options has proved to be nothing but problematic for us over 2 years. I am currently considering other suppliers - Voyager, Itris, Evolve, etc...

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 Re: Bond 11?
Author:Richard
Date:Friday, 30th Jul 2010 09:42
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Category:Recruitment Software
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We saw a demo of their web based product and it took forever to process any search result, in fact it would hang and then time out occasionally. Not sure if it was just a dodgy demo but it was enough to put us off.

We are considering Chameleoni, Eploy, Evolve, any comments on these would be appreciated.

Rich (anon as I do not want any sales calls thanks!)

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 Re: Bond 11?
Author:Marcus Nanson
Date:Friday, 30th Jul 2010 09:55
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Many thanks for the advice. It does look like I will be shopping around a bit more!
I also welcome any software companies getting in touch via email.
Marcus

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 Re: Bond 11?
Author:Andy Jones
Date:Friday, 30th Jul 2010 13:10
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Category:Recruitment Software
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I work closely with iTris software and handle migrations and data transfers. Although its not the cheapest out there I would say the system is stable, reliable and very well supported. Andy

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 Re: Bond 11?
Author:Richard
Date:Friday, 30th Jul 2010 16:17
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Category:Recruitment Software
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Just spoken with a couple of ex chameleon users and read the threads here. Not an option I am going to risk!

Will add Itris to my list. Is it web based Andy?

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 Re: Bond 11?
Author:Paul
Date:Thursday, 5th Aug 2010 09:23
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Category:Recruitment Software
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Had it for about 2 months before giving it back. waste of time and effort. there are much better remote systems.
Bond, server based has a good reputation, but they have tried to force this into a CRM type affiar and it falls down on so many levels.
Check out evolve, or RDB ProNet

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 Re: Bond 11?
Author:Gary
Date:Thursday, 5th Aug 2010 15:11
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Category:Recruitment Software
URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=210022

Hi Marcus,

I would agree with much of the above. In my experience their web software is very much less functional than many other recruitment SaaS (software as a service) providers in the uk market. They are still very much focused on their client-server version and get most of their money from the really big boys. I would go with smaller outfits who only do Saas, perhaps Applicantextra, Arithon etc (google these names for more). Ask some searching questions, are their limits on records, support calls/emails. Are you tied to a long contract. Who owns your data and how do you leave it doesn't work out.
Does the product interact with the desktop and Outlook etc.
In my opinion, if you have shortlisted bond, you could not have asked these questions.
Good luck mate

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 Re: Bond 11?
Author:John
Date:Thursday, 5th Aug 2010 19:32
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Category:Recruitment Software
URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=210022

We looked at RDB Pronet from first chocie software when me and a couple of friends were going it alone and I've since moved to a company that uses it and I must say I've become a big fan.

We have it server based here but I know they do a cloud version which is really snappy as that was what we had our demonstrations on.

John

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 Re: Bond 11?
Author:Guy Cookson
Date:Wednesday, 1st Sep 2010 15:02
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Category:Recruitment Software
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 Re: Bond 11?
Author:David Renton ( ind. softmag publish)
Date:Thursday, 2nd Sep 2010 00:54
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Category:Recruitment Software
URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=210022

I'm surprised by the above, comments, seek independent advice and don't look on these forums as from my reviews none of this adds up to what Bond v11 is or does..so all sounds rather dodgy, but of course i would recommend shopping around and comparing it to the likes of Bond as just like anything it can't do any harm.

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 Re: Bond 11?
Author:another one
Date:Thursday, 2nd Sep 2010 15:27
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Category:Recruitment Software
URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=210022

David, you are joking? I looked at bond when I was shopping around and could not believe how bad it was. Searching was slow, every time I wanted to adjust the search I had to start from scratch. even the sales rep struggled to make it work.

it was always going to be to expensive for me so I was looking out of interest only. I thought Bond would be a benchmark but I was wrong. I am not alone in thinking this as some of my old colleagues are migrating away from bond all together because of the v11 failure.

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 Re: Bond 11?
Author:Spence
Date:Thursday, 2nd Sep 2010 17:53
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Category:Recruitment Software
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been using RDB ProNet for 2-3 years now, Its very good.

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 Re: Bond 11?
Author:AA
Date:Monday, 6th Sep 2010 15:19
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Category:Recruitment Software
URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=210022

Rumour floating around in the past couple of weeks is that Hays are in the process of ditching Bond..

Based on the news today, I would think they can ill afford to loose a prestigious client client like that :

http://www.stockopedia.co.uk/content/renewable-energy-hldgs-straight-plc-avingtrans-plc-pursuit-dynamics-media-square-avacta-group-plc-bond-international-software-brady-craneware-plc-hb-markets-news-flash-47267/

anyone know any more?

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 Re: Bond 11?
Author:Paul
Date:Monday, 6th Sep 2010 15:57
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Category:Recruitment Software
URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=210022

Ive heard that rumour about Hayes too :)

I have to agree that v11 has been a monumental failure for Bond.

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 Re: Bond 11?
Author:AA
Date:Monday, 6th Sep 2010 16:13
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Category:Recruitment Software
URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=210022

HayEs or Hays ?

Big difference between the two!

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