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 CV submission law
Author:castlelgr
Date:Wednesday, 21st Jul 2010 15:57
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URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=209804

Ok I am fuming now.

Found a good candidate for one of my clients. Spoke to candidate about the job, did a tele interview and qualified him for the role. He was interested in my client and the role and asked me to forward his CV and covering letter.

It took a few days for him to make a covering letter and change his CV so that him and I were 100% satisfied with it.

Anyway so I forward CV and client comes back saying they received a day before I sent it to them from another agency, that I eally want to name becasue this is not the first tim they have pulled this stunt.

Anyway candidate has nver spoken to said agency and has never applied for the role and has never even discussed the role before I contacted him.

Does anyone knw the laws on this, surely this is against data protection or at least against recruitment ethics. I am tired of national recruitment agencies doing this and I am really wanting to phone said agency and give them a piece of my mind.

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 Re: CV submission law
Author:An interested party
Date:Wednesday, 21st Jul 2010 17:18
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URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=209804

Yes, they are in breach of both the Data Protection Act (your candidate is a 'data subject' to use the lingo of the act, and his prior consent is required before the other agency does anything with his data, i.e. CV) and the Conduct of Employment Agencies and Employment Business regulations. The candidate can make a complaint to the Information Commissioners Office for the former, and you can report them to the Employment Agency Standards Inspectorate for the latter.

Best of luck to you - rogue agencies sending unsolicited CVs just tarnish the name of the whole industry and make it harder for professional recruiters to make an honest buck.

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 Re: CV submission law
Author:Brian
Date:Wednesday, 21st Jul 2010 17:45
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URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=209804

Its also important to focus on the situation with your candidate which may not be lost - ask them to email you saying briefly
that they wish to be represented by you exclusively with your client and they have not given permission to any other party.

Forward this to your client and ask that they respect your candidates express wishes.

You may be lucky that the client has their own suspicions regarding the agency in question and will happily support you on this.

Good luck anyway.

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 Re: CV submission law
Author:Mitch
Date:Thursday, 22nd Jul 2010 09:23
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URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=209804

If you have the right relationship with the candidate, then you really don't have a problem.

You may have to jump through a few more hoops than you would if this hadn't of happened, but that's life sometimes.

If the candidate doesn't care who represents him, then you could have a problem.

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 Re: CV submission law
Author:castlelgr
Date:Thursday, 22nd Jul 2010 09:45
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URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=209804

No problem really with candidate or client, a few emails ad a phone call and its sorted.

However this is not the first time this has happened, infact its the 5th time this year. Every time I sort it out but I am seriously annoyed. Infact if this was a more light hearted forum I would be including a few choice words.

What I really want to know is if there is a way of stopping agencies from doing this again. I mean the agency in question is a national one a very big one, so not really a rogue agency although I suspect they may have a few rogue recruiters.

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 Re: CV submission law
Author:Mitch
Date:Thursday, 22nd Jul 2010 10:07
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Why don't you report them to the people 'An Interested Party' mentioned?

The only way it is likely to get stopped is if people like you report them, which in turn makes it more possible that some kind of action should be taken.

I also don't see why you're reluctant to name the agency. I doubt anyone will be surprised and if you have proof of what they did, they can't do anything to shut you up.

If it was me, I would be posting this in every recruitment group on LinkedIn I could find.

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 Re: CV submission law
Author:castlelgr
Date:Thursday, 22nd Jul 2010 10:38
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URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=209804

I have Mitch, I just feel this should have a stronger set of rules, and basically I am ranting.

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 Re: CV submission law
Author:liz
Date:Friday, 23rd Jul 2010 09:08
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URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=209804

What if this agency have something in their registration process that gives them authority to send candidates' details for jobs - giving them consent at that stage.

We have candidates sign a declaration form to state that they are happy for us to submit their details to clients. Surely this covers them? I'm not suggesting that it's right and we always speak to candidates for jobs.

However, loads of candidates have said to me words to the effect of 'you really don't need to check with me, I trust that you'll submit my details only to jobs that I'll be interested in'

You can argue that if they've done a thorough interview/registration and asked them what they are looking for, checked if there is anywhere that they don't want to work etc, that they're not doing anything legally wrong.

I check with candidates to make sure they are definitely interested in the company and therefore don't end up pulling out, also to check that they're not applied directly, but a lot of the big agencies don't.

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 Re: CV submission law
Author:Kate
Date:Wednesday, 4th Aug 2010 12:47
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URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=209804

The practice of sending CV's without talking to the candidate beforehand is simply a device to steal a march on competitors. It's unprofessional and senior candidates may refuse to have you represent them if you do it; I think if you want raise your game and develop your business you need to be trusted by candidates and clients to work effectively. If you work in a niche market as we do, your reputation is your lifeline, and word gets around fast. Do as you would be done by!

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