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 Recruitment Software - simple & effective ?
Author:Norton
Date:Wednesday, 30th May 2007 18:49
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Category:Recruitment Software
URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=15913

I’m looking for a simple and effective mid-range recruitment package that meets the following criteria:

a) simple/intuitive to use (my staff are not very technical at all... )

b) quick/accurate CV loading/duplicate checking, skills coding, CV/code searching, post mailshot functionality etc

c) we can make minor changes to it (without being charged a fortune… )

d) protects our CVs/data from being easily copied

e) has EXCELLENT customer support

Because of bad experience’s we’ve had the past, we’re currently considering Adapt or Microdec on the hope that we'll get decent customer service - although both systems are far too big/complicated for what we really need.

Can anyone recommend a good mid-range product/company that give excellent customer support?

All feedback gratefully received....

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 Re: Recruitment Software - simple & effective
Author:Brian Rogers
Date:Thursday, 31st May 2007 15:12
Views:495 (excluding Digests and RSS feeds)
Category:Recruitment Software
URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=15913

e-nGauge for GoldMine is an easy to use, powerful and effective tool. It's built on an Industry Standard CRM (Customer Relationship Management) platform, namely GoldMine, and is designed with a sales force in mind.

e-nGauge helps you to react to client requests and needs very quickly using:
1. Automatic CV Importing, Skilling, Alerts & Matching
2. Searches that allow you to search for candidates, clients and contacts on fields, skills and free text all on the same screen.
3. Workflow that automatically manages your diary and communications with candidates and clients as well as SMS capability.
4. Key Performance Indicators that report on your business ratios; CV's Sent, Interviews Held; Placements Made - by:
a. Recruitment Consultant
b. Client
c. Job Role
d. Sources - e.g. Job Boards
e. Ethnicity & Gender
f. Etc, etc.

For more info you can contact them on 0870 350 7490 or info@e-ngauge.com


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 Re: Recruitment Software - simple & effective
Author:Matt Sharp
Date:Thursday, 31st May 2007 15:28
Views:492 (excluding Digests and RSS feeds)
Category:Recruitment Software
URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=15913

Norton,

If you are looking for cheap and simple try ITS Systems Eploy, talk to Chris Bogh at ITS. I have used it as an external recruiter and have recommended it to another source. The system starts at £75 a month per user.

Regards


Matt

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 Re: Recruitment Software - simple & effective
Author:dean
Date:Friday, 1st Jun 2007 15:36
Views:470 (excluding Digests and RSS feeds)
Category:Recruitment Software
URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=15913

I would suggest you look at http://wwwchameleoni.com first user is free. very solid web based product.

BR

Dean

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 Re: Recruitment Software - simple & effective
Author:Mark
Date:Monday, 4th Jun 2007 10:27
Views:506 (excluding Digests and RSS feeds)
Category:Recruitment Software
URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=15913

I second Dean's post we also use chameleoni and it is fantastic piece of software, it also integrates to you website for job postings if you wish it to and lots of other useful bolt-ons like broadbean feed etc


Mark

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 Re: Recruitment Software - simple & effective
Author:Norton
Date:Monday, 4th Jun 2007 12:32
Views:460 (excluding Digests and RSS feeds)
Category:Recruitment Software
URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=15913

Thanks everyone for your responses so far.

Just so you know, we're probably looking to stick with a server based application rather than a web-based solution.

I've recently been given the names of

Influence
N-Gauge
Evolve
Red Rabbit

Can anyone give me any feedback on these products and what thier customer service is like ?




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 Re: Recruitment Software - simple & effective
Author:Mr Phillips
Date:Monday, 4th Jun 2007 13:47
Views:462 (excluding Digests and RSS feeds)
Category:Recruitment Software
URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=15913

Hi Norton, You have a problem. To explain:
All the systems you are considering are off the shelf. They all aim to be all things to all men. Some do it well and others not so well. You will work that out very quickly of course. The first problem is to find out which. Once you have you will see that the cost reflects this.

The idea of finding a "simpler" system that can do exactly what YOU need is great but in real terms that’s not how it works. You could buy a simpler system but you will outgrow it and if its cheap it wont be developed in the way you may specifically like.

A general rule of thumb is that if its FREE or discounted, its going to cause you grief in the long run. Secondly is that you want first class customer service. The cheaper systems will offer but not derliver this. Most service issues will be with bug fixing or development issues. Cheap systems wont derliver either of these unfortunately.

Seems simple so far? No...at the other end of the spectrum you have the market leader. Not mentioning names but the market leader will have issues purely down to their size and speed of response. Unless you are 100 user plus you might find yourself with a nice long wish lists that never shrinks or get done! Remember again that the more "tailored" your system the harder it will be to support for them.

You need A: a software house who have a track record but not too big that you are just a number to them.

You also need a partner who offers new releases as part of the support agreement. Most of the ones you have mentioned don’t. When I set my business up 3 years ago I saw most of the market leaders and Chose ITRIS from ITEC Systems. I am on V7 and due to take V8 within the next 6 months. All my support issues are dealt with very quickly ( by humans - no voicemail!) I would see them before deciding.

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 Re: Recruitment Software - simple & effective
Author:Brian Rogers
Date:Tuesday, 5th Jun 2007 09:18
Views:499 (excluding Digests and RSS feeds)
Category:Recruitment Software
URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=15913

For security, data theft and up-time reasons you're very wise to stick with a server solution.

e-nGauge adresses these very issues so feel free to call Jas, David or Donald on 0870 350 7490 at your convenience.

I've always found them helpful, friendly and responsive.

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 Re: Recruitment Software - simple & effective
Author:warren
Date:Wednesday, 6th Jun 2007 12:24
Views:451 (excluding Digests and RSS feeds)
Category:Recruitment Software
URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=15913

Web can be very secure -depends how its protected.
Speak with www.edoes.com

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 Re: Recruitment Software - simple & effective
Author:Susan
Date:Wednesday, 6th Jun 2007 12:31
Views:500 (excluding Digests and RSS feeds)
Category:Recruitment Software
URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=15913

Hi there Norton

I went through the same process a few months ago, wanting something flexible, straightforward and reasonably costed. I looked mostly at the smaller companies, as although some of the features of the systems are still in development, they could provide me with the flexibility I want (in fact you get quite a bit of input into future releases) and they also provide a more tailored and personal customer support. I chose the Eboss system from Edoes in the end (see www.Edoes.com), which seems to fulfil all my requirements in terms of functionality and so far I have been very happy with the great service.

We are using a web based version, which alleviates a huge amount of overhead in terms of systems administration. Edoes can also handle your webhosting, web design and optimisation and logo design - in fact a one stop shop for most of your system needs, which is great for me as I can focus on actually doing recruitment now!

The other serious contender for me was recruitersoft from Alsoft, which seems to provide a similar level of service and has a very nice feel to the end user screens.

Hope that helps!

Cheerio, Susan

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 Re: Recruitment Software - simple & effective
Author:Marlo
Date:Wednesday, 6th Jun 2007 15:04
Views:447 (excluding Digests and RSS feeds)
Category:Recruitment Software
URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=15913

I would concur with the other posts that web based solutions are a better long term investment as it alleviates the burden of to your IT staff to have to maintain the hardware, software, patches, etc. Additionally web based solutions can be just as secure if not more so than a licensed version depending on the type of security the solution provider offers and the hosting facility they use.

Depending your requirements for Intelligent Search, duplicate checking, hosting of career sites (micro sites) and over all ease of use, our product might be a good fit, OpenHire. Please feel free to see further details at http://www.silkroadtech.com/products/applicant__tracking/index.htm.

We will have a booth at the upcoming CIPD HR Software show. Please feel free to come by to learn more about our application.

You are also welcome to contact me with any questions,
Marlo Tapley
Managing Director, International Sales
+011 44 (0)78 940 29726

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 Re: Recruitment Software - simple & effective
Author:Simon
Date:Wednesday, 6th Jun 2007 15:32
Views:512 (excluding Digests and RSS feeds)
Category:Recruitment Software
URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=15913

Interesting thread.

The main reason for web based are as follows;

No Software or hardware to buy, install, maintain and upgrade
Ready to run
Freely accessible, anytime and anywhere
pay as you go
short learning curve
codeless customization
constant monitoring and feedback
upgrades are included free during the lifetime of the contract for service.

I believe web based solutions are the future, essentially when the focus for conventional software houses is "getting the customer to buy software" where as the focus for On-demand or web solution software companies is maximising usage which means they focus on "customers businesses operating more successfully", which is the real reason why business buy software applications in the first place.

If you look at what most technology guru's are saying, its the transfer from traditional software to services and that software as we know it, will no longer exist in its current guise.

Ask most companies who provide software including traditional recruitment software companies what they use for a Sales/CRM solution and a high majority use Salesforce.com which is what we at http://remedyhcms.com provide to the recruitment industry.

I trust this is of use to you before you commit to purchasing a server based solution and if you would like to discuss feel free to contact me on the following;

Simon

Remedy HCMS Ltd
T: 08704 125200
E:simon@remedyhcms.com
Http://remedyhcms.com

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 Re: Recruitment Software - simple & effective
Author:Simon
Date:Wednesday, 6th Jun 2007 15:43
Views:449 (excluding Digests and RSS feeds)
Category:Recruitment Software
URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=15913

apologies, as someone has emailed me stating the URL was incorrect

please refer to the following http://www.remedyhcms.com

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 Re: Recruitment Software - simple & effective
Author:Ron
Date:Wednesday, 6th Jun 2007 16:20
Views:468 (excluding Digests and RSS feeds)
Category:Recruitment Software
URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=15913

Hi, Just a thought:

I had a web based system for 3 years and spent just short of £23'000. including set up and monthly fees over the 3 years.

When I got tired of the connection speed and lack of technical support I moved to a server based system.

Essentially I realised I had been renting the old system and didn’t own it as I had been paying for a service as opposed to buying a license.

I then bought my new ( and better) server based system and in all including a Dell Server have laid out just short of half it cost me for the web based system!!!!

Hindsight is a great thing but if I did this again I would steer clear from a monthly pay system as its a indefinite cost. I was paying £95 a user before and now its less than £20 including support and upgrades....And my new system doesn’t disconnect when the net goes down!!!!

Also the main reason I bought a web based system is connectivity but I find it easier to connect to my new server based system through remote desktop anyway...and that’s quicker!

Just some friendly advice for you.

Good luck,

Ron

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 Re: Recruitment Software - simple & effective
Author:Brian Rogers
Date:Thursday, 7th Jun 2007 09:00
Views:448 (excluding Digests and RSS feeds)
Category:Recruitment Software
URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=15913

I have to agree with Ron.

I have tried a web based system. Maybe I'm paranoid but I suspect that a competitor managed to browse some of my data, although I can't prove it.

There seemed to be a lot of coincidences that occurred with the few jobs that I trialed.

Personally I like to retain full control of my data - I know where it is and I know who has access.

Contracts offer little protection when the burden of proof is on the claimant and in the event of a claim I'd still need find the funds to defend my rights in court should I suspect that there has been a breach of contract.

I also don't understand why I need to pay for a system again and again year after year. Managing an in-house server is not a difficult or time consuming job and is definitely a money saver.

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 Re: Recruitment Software - simple & effective
Author:Brian Rogers
Date:Thursday, 7th Jun 2007 09:22
Views:441 (excluding Digests and RSS feeds)
Category:Recruitment Software
URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=15913

Just another comment if I may.

The internet isn't always there for you.

Even my bank (the biggest) cannot guarantee that a connection will be available when I need it. There have been occasions when in-spite of all their resources their website is unavailable.

Now this may not be a problem for an HR department where jobs & CV's are not their lifeblood.

For a recruiter, if my website goes down or someone goes through my cables while my road is being dug up (again), then I have zero access to my data.

I cannot afford to be without my data, jobs, cv's, telephone numbers, notes, etc, etc for one hour never mind 3 days as has happened in the past. It's bad enough not being able to receive or send emails

Even a contract with guarantees and penalties would not compensate for the business interruption and lost sales in the event that I lose access to my data for even a short period of time.

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 Re: Recruitment Software - simple & effective
Author:James Smith
Date:Thursday, 7th Jun 2007 10:26
Views:438 (excluding Digests and RSS feeds)
Category:Recruitment Software
URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=15913

I would strongly suggest getting in touch with a company called Clever Thinking.

They mgiht be able to actually make up some software for you, specifically for your needs and your needs only! It is very bespoke and flexible. I have used them in the past on a few occasions and they have always been pretty good.

If you fancy it the best person to talk to is Roy. I think his number is 020 7099 2617.

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 Re: Recruitment Software - simple & effective
Author:Simon
Date:Thursday, 7th Jun 2007 10:35
Views:452 (excluding Digests and RSS feeds)
Category:Recruitment Software
URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=15913

Brian,

I would like to add a comment to your posts, which is if you lost internet connection or someone dug up the road and disconnected your connection you would be powerless anyway as if you do not have internet, you typically do not have email either and if they dug up the road and broke your connection you would have no phone or fax its the same with power cuts none of the service industry guarantee service however when was the last time you had a power cut or no phone line?. There are always limitations to everything however these days the web and On- demand solutions are as robust and traditional systems. Also, what if you were broken into and someone ran of with your server or you forgot to take regular backups and the machine blew up, what then?

The reason you pay year on year is you are receiving a service very similar having a BT line at home or office however, where as every year you get a call from your software provided saying you need a new license or maintenance contract or upgrade with a hefty upfront cost you do not have this with On-demand solutions. the whole point is that is a service and the aim is for the service provided to make sure you are content with the service and the whole labour intensive management of hardware software, risks liability is eased.

More and more companies are moving to this even companies like PSD i beleive are looking at going fully to web-based systems. If saleforce.com can become as big as they are, they must be doing something right.

The whole point about these systems is the let you focus on what your good at recruitment and not IT. I will agree with you that when choosing web-based solutions you need to make sure their support is second to none and this will obviously be key to any players in the market. What you have to be careful of is ASP is not On-demand in its true sense alot or companies say they have web-based solutions however they are normalyl more an ASP



Kind regards

Simon

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 Re: Recruitment Software - simple & effective
Author:Brian Rogers
Date:Thursday, 7th Jun 2007 10:59
Views:434 (excluding Digests and RSS feeds)
Category:Recruitment Software
URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=15913

Ron,

I looked at your website which took me to Chameleoni.

In light of your previous email why do your terms & conditions state:

"Chameleon-i makes no guarantees as to the continuous availability of the Service or of any specific feature(s) of the Service. Chameleon-i will inform you of any significant changes to the Service or the terms and conditions of this Agreement that it may make from time to time."

There is explicitly no guarantee of continuous service and it appears that if I like to use a particular feature you may decide to remove it at your own volition.

Alarm bells!

What happens if Chameleoni go BUST?
How do I access my records then?
It looks like we'll ALL go BUST together.

At least with my own server my system will continue to operate indefinitely.

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 Re: Recruitment Software - simple & effective
Author:Brian Rogers
Date:Thursday, 7th Jun 2007 11:55
Views:463 (excluding Digests and RSS feeds)
Category:Recruitment Software
URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=15913

My previous post was incorrectly addressed to Ron.

It is in fact addressed to Simon in response to his last post

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 Re: Recruitment Software - simple & effective
Author:Simon
Date:Thursday, 7th Jun 2007 14:12
Views:421 (excluding Digests and RSS feeds)
Category:Recruitment Software
URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=15913



Hi Brian,

Thank you for your comments, I believe this is healthy to opening discuss as it helps others with there choice of options.

Yes, I am aware the terms state this, as I said earlier most if not all service companies have to have this clause in their terms, if you look at gas, electric, water, phone and other service organisation either in our industry or others they all have this clause. Not trying to be condescending a software company can never guarantee you service because they cannot guarantee power to your server for its out of their control so to some extent we all have the same Achilles heal. The point is now with the increase of bandwidth and speed more and more companies are moving toward this service..

What I can say is that we never own the data, it’s your data/information and as such you own it, at any point you have the availability to export this out, I believe currently the standard is in a CSV format.

There are no alarm bells;

The company has been in development for over two years now and is privately funded there are no issues re this continuing forward.

You access your records as stipulated above

Therefore you are totally protected.

I am merely trying to highlight why there is such a high demand for on-demand solutions and its not new, only new to the recruitment industry, as I mentioned earlier look at salesforce.com and their stats and all we are doing is replicating this for the recruitment sector.


BR Simon

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 Re: Recruitment Software - simple & effective
Author:Brian Rogers
Date:Thursday, 7th Jun 2007 14:47
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Category:Recruitment Software
URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=15913

Simon,

Following your argument there is reason to be even more cautious.

If I use your remotely hosted service I risk power and hardware failure on your site as well as my site.

Whereas if I use my own server then I only risk power and hardware failure on my own site.

Should Chameleoni servers be taken offline for whatever reason - fire, storm, rent dispute, liquidation - how would I be able to export my data - if your infrastructure went down?

Secondly what would I actually do with that data?
I cannot run your application?
I'll end up with a load of CSV files in an unfamiliar and unusable data structure.
At the moment, if we had a fire, I would simply purchase a new Server, reload my application and recover my datafiles - I could be back up and running in 2 hours.


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 Re: Recruitment Software - simple & effective
Author:simon
Date:Thursday, 7th Jun 2007 15:45
Views:434 (excluding Digests and RSS feeds)
Category:Recruitment Software
URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=15913

Hi Brian,

I think you are missing the point, we are an extension of your IT department. I cannot speak for every On-demand service as i do not have all the facts however what i can confirm is that our servers are hosted in one of the top secure datacentres and have all means possible to ensure, security, backup, reliability, fire, theft, flood, eathquakes etc and delivery/uptime if its was so risky why do IBM, HP and others make millions in outsourced IT and infrastucture as they share some of the same datacentres.

When you change supplier beit server based or web based you always like to transfer data across so what we do is no different to who you use currently or in the future, its standard practice. i only mentioned CSV as its one of the format commonly used to transfer data.

There are many blue chip companies that put their trust in others allowing them to focus on what they now best. What is the cost to you managing your own IT infrastucture over outsourcing with more support that you currently get. it you actually sit down and put it on paper this is normally a more cost effective solution than traditional server based systems. That's all i am trying to get across, this could go on so lets agree to disagree.

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 Re: Recruitment Software - simple & effective
Author:Brian Rogers
Date:Friday, 8th Jun 2007 07:50
Views:418 (excluding Digests and RSS feeds)
Category:Recruitment Software
URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=15913

Okay Simon, lets agree to disagree.

I think its important that potential users are made aware of the very real risks involved and not just presented with 'benefits'.

The internet is not always there for you.

I think you'll find that very few companies would dare risk running mission critical system as remotely hosted applications.

I don't think salesforce.com can be classed as a mission critical application.

The ability to process jobs and search CV's definitely is a mission critical function for any recruiter.

Personally I think the ongoing costs of a service is too expensive and definitely too risky. I need to mitigate my risks, not increase them.

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 Re: Recruitment Software - simple & effective
Author:Graham
Date:Friday, 8th Jun 2007 09:03
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Category:Recruitment Software
URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=15913

Guys,

What exactly do you want your database to do for you?

We use a system that we wrote ourselves, and we are not rocket scientists! It runs on Filemaker operating system and was dead easy to write. I have used Aapt and many others in the past and think that the sytem we now use is just as good.

It will store, sort and allow easy access to all your records with a "user interface" that can be tayloired to your requirements. The support is done by ourselves but we have never had a problem in the 3 years we have been running it. In fairness what support do you need, if the system is running in house.

We can run up to ten users on it, with a simple local area network. The licence for the software is a £99 one off cost for each user and thats it. For a start up business I would defy anyone to find something better value.

Ok - it doesn't do all the snazzy things of uploading and recognising CV's, sending SMS messages etc. At the end of the day you have to read each CV anyway to qualify candidates and you can always use the old faithful telephone and actually call candidates. It will mail merge, and you can link documents to each record (CV's etc).

Anyone interested in what we have done I would be more than happy to discuss with them.

Graham

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 Re: Recruitment Software - simple & effective
Author:Simon
Date:Friday, 8th Jun 2007 09:14
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Category:Recruitment Software
URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=15913

O.K. Barry, well one of the leading players in our market in the US posted revenues of $28m for the first quarter of this year so there is a lot of recruiters who differ from you.

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 Re: Recruitment Software - simple & effective
Author:Norton
Date:Friday, 8th Jun 2007 11:13
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Category:Recruitment Software
URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=15913

Thanks everyone for your comments, but can I please bring this topic back on track.

Can anyone give me any feedback on the following products/companies:

Microdec
Red Rabbit
Influence
Hot Lizard
Evolve

Many thanks.

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 Re: Recruitment Software - simple & effective
Author:Dean
Date:Friday, 8th Jun 2007 11:19
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Category:Recruitment Software
URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=15913

What happens to the data and application if there is a dispute between the web based solution provider and the recruitment agency, for example if the invoice is unpaid? What happens to the data and access to it if there is a dispute between two parties that ends up in court for example the provider doesn't meet the service level requirements and the agency wants to terminate the contract early?

Does the provider restrict access to the data and use of the application?



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 Re: Recruitment Software - simple & effective
Author:Lisa
Date:Thursday, 14th Jun 2007 09:13
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Category:Recruitment Software
URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=15913

Norton, we are going through a very similar exercise to you. I'd be interested in making contact as maybe we can exchange views and research to save each of us time.

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 Re: Recruitment Software - simple & effective
Author:Stephen
Date:Wednesday, 27th Jun 2007 11:31
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Category:Recruitment Software
URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=15913

My word I couldn't help notice all the comments to this thread and as a result I couldn't help want to add my 10 pence worth.

I will always promote web based over LAN systems as I used to have a LAN based system and when the builders dug up the BT line we were unable to operate for I think 24 hrs. The other time we got hit by a virus wiped all our computers and the IT guy couldn't get to see us till the next day and then we spent the whole day reinstalling Microsoft. Fortunately I backed up once a week but managed to loose a weeks worth of data.

With a web based system the consultants could work from home and the data is backed up automatically. OK you can loose a connection but usually by the time I have made a coffee and walked back to the desk all is fine.

Now once you start getting to 20 plus consultants you can think about having your own server because by then you can have your own full time support guy.

As I say I was converted and as a result I decided to join the company whose software I was using.

Now if you are serious in not using a web based system then I suggest you still back up your data on the web automatically because computers crash and get wiped by viruses, and for a little extra you can have this and a recruitment database.

Regards
Stephen
http://www.recruitment-views.com

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 Re: Recruitment Software - simple & effective
Author:tom atkinson
Date:Wednesday, 27th Jun 2007 11:59
Views:318 (excluding Digests and RSS feeds)
Category:Recruitment Software
URL:http://web.ukrecruiter.co.uk/forum/Forum/read.php?i=15913

Hi Norton, try looking at http://www.recruitsimply.co.uk/recruit_system.htm

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 Re: Recruitment Software - simple & effective
Author:matthew
Date:Tuesday, 10th Jul 2007 09:09
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Category:Recruitment Software
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Microdec is good but expensive. A quick way to qualify the others is to get financial checks done. Could be very interesting. Have a look at www.gelsolutions.com

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 Re: Recruitment Software - simple & effective
Author:tomte
Date:Wednesday, 11th Jul 2007 13:11
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Category:Recruitment Software
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Has anyone experience on pricing (per user + set-up costs) concerning the following tools;

Fortuna
iProfile
Broadbean
RDB Pronet
Voyager

?? Any experience how Fortuna, RDB and Voyager work compared to each other?

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 Re: Recruitment Software - simple & effective
Author:Matthew
Date:Tuesday, 17th Jul 2007 09:14
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Sorry,

www.gelsolutions.co.uk

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 Re: Recruitment Software - simple & effective
Author:MarkH
Date:Tuesday, 17th Jul 2007 15:19
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Category:Recruitment Software
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A rough guide to prices for most recrutment software-

£1000 to £1500 per user for traditional software
£50 per person per month for hosted version.

Make sure you don't get stung for extras such as data migration or integrating with your website etc. or you will end up paying thousands on top if you aren't careful.


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 Re: Recruitment Software - simple & effective
Author:Dave.Simmons
Date:Friday, 20th Jul 2007 13:33
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What do you mean "don't get stung by data migration or website integration"?? Surely if you have data to migrate or want to integrate you website these are costs that have to be taken on board - or are you suggesting that they may not charge these sums if negotiated successfully?

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 Re: Recruitment Software - simple & effective
Author:markH
Date:Wednesday, 25th Jul 2007 10:02
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Dave,

I have had first hand experience of making the mistake of not tying down what is covered/isn't covered with prices and have paid over the odds for technical work done after buying software.

A lot of software companies do include basic data migration in their prices, others seem to make most of their profit from these costs.

My point is check what is included- will it automatically post jobs onto your website, can you email/sms from it, how do you back up, how much are additional users, if they are going to migrate data for you- who is going to get the old data into the right format etc.

Hope that's useful

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